i think when, the united states, when we had issues that were important to us, we sent john kerry to sudan, that's a level of engagement that we need to step up. what we're seeing here, this rebel group taking a city of a million people, carving this area into keystones, kind of imposing terror there, precipitated in the passing of 3 million lives. >> we have to be engaged in a sustained way. we have been involved there. u.s. military trained a congo battalion that has proven effective. but it's only one. it's all about security. they don't have the security forces in that region. if we could work actively to train security forces we could make an enormous difference. >> interesting that you say that, anecdotely, some of our people lost their car in a ditch, the army guys pulled up to help get the people out after ditch, here we go, it's going to be bribery. they brought the car out, they waved good-bye. they said, no problem. it turned out to be the one unit of their armed we trained, so this progress is possible and, as you know, this country was the subject of the single piece of